Tuesday, 10 February 2009

Has Democracy Forum Fallen?

The whole of Democracy Forum has been taken down. Does anyone know what has happened? Is it sabotage? Has Anthony Butcher been rubbed out?

Re Euro matters it is reported that at the emergency EU summit of national leaders later this month the Germans will be ambushed into supporting a 'debt agency' to issue EU bonds so the PIGS will not suffer further market humiliation. The PIGS public finances are rapidly deteriorating, Ireland's deficit is now 12% of GDP and there are doubts Italy and Greece can roll over their maturing debt in a tightening credit market.

The German's are not happy as they don't want to bankroll the PIGS.

Sarkozy's 6.5 bn Euro bail out to French car companies must be spent in France. No nonsense about fair competition or free movement of capital troubles the Gauls. The Brussels competition police will examine the bail out but it is certain it will be waved through. Toujours le self - interest.

17 comments:

Bob Feal-martinez said...

Eric is someone else writing your blog. BDF's outage is probably just a technical blip. Note a conspiracy, then I guess given you advisers it could be.

Eric Edmond said...

Bob,

It seems to have been a technical hitch but one must consider all possible suspects

Eric

Greg L-W. said...

Hi,

In that EUkip has been only too happy to lie and their chairman Paul Nuttall quite determinedly produced a raft of lies and tried to shut down what was UKIP Forum.

NuttAll's dishonesty and the lies on behalf of Peter Reeve etc. are well recorded - that Anthony Butcher and Brendan Padmore lacked the integrity or moral fibre to act with integrity is irrefutable and that they act to provide a platform for the lies and distortions of The Faragista Fan Club and EUkip as it slides into deceit, discredit and disaster so competently aided in its course by such as The BFM, McGough and their ilk who run away when called to account and fail to ever let truth interfere with their duplicity.

The Forum in question is in some legal difficulty but that is over the McCann issue where they have gone beyond the fact that the McCann parents are clearly and irrefutably personally responsible for the death or disapearance of their daughter.

However I understand that in removing some of the more colourfull fantasies about the baby concerned a link between the software and the data was not active for a period.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

Junius said...

As ever GLW is on the ball.

If only we could say the same about Bob!

Bob Feal-martinez said...

GLW of course spouts rubbish, Anthony explained exactly what occurred, namely do not allow unsubstantiated libel, or be taken to court and have the site shut down.

Anthony rightly chose to protect the site, for which he was called a coward.

Greg L-W. said...

No great surprise - The BFM displays again that he hasn't a clue what is going on around him!

Junius said...

It is quite frightening to realise that Bob is the only person on this planet who believes that his posts are intelligent, probing and factual. And to think that he wants to be an MP!

Greg L-W. said...

Hi,

It is a measure of just what a state of collapse EUkip is now in that they permit individuals like Bob Feel Martinis, Mark Croucher, Annabelle Fuller, Gawain Towler and knuckle dragging bullies like Peter reeve, Paul NuttAll, proven cheats and liars like Mick McGough, David Bannerman, Andrew Smith, Ma Zucherman, Douglas Denny and their odious ilk including the discreditted and clearly dishonest Marta Andreasen who is widely attributed as a racist to boot - as spokesmen for the party.

It is little wonder that they are realisticly looking at the possibility of not a single MEP being elected and a maximum of 3-5 being predicted.

EUkip has been destroyed by its utter incompetence, BNP style centralisation of power based on bullying and lies and the clearly proven incompetence and lack of judgement of Farage as a leader.

Perhaps if the truth be known his only sensible move was to use £25,000 a year of money available to the party to pay his wife - perhaps Kirsten should run the party anf Farage could dress up as a chicken and entertain the children with blow up toys and rides in museum exhibits!

Regards,
Greg L-W.

Greg L-W. said...

Hi,

It would seem that my statement:

It is a measure of just what a state of collapse EUkip is now in that they permit individuals like Bob Feel Martinis, Mark Croucher, Annabelle Fuller, Gawain Towler and knuckle dragging bullies like Peter reeve, Paul NuttAll, proven cheats and liars like Mick McGough, David Bannerman, Andrew Smith, Ma Zucherman, Douglas Denny and their odious ilk including the discreditted and clearly dishonest Marta Andreasen who is widely attributed as a racist to boot - as spokesmen for the party.
,


has been accepted by one and all as irrefutable.

However I have been asked to substantiate a specific comment I made about the discreditted Marta Andreasen, who we understand has fudged her residency firstly living in a British Post Office Box and subsequently claiming (similarly to Jaqui Smith) to be resident in the home of a relative of a British Peer!

Herewith the provenance for my statement:

You may also find this comment interesting:

Andreasen is no stranger to confrontation.

Appointed head of the accounting division at the OECD in October 1998, she clashed with her then employer.

Her spell there ended with her bid to take the organisation to the European Court of Justice claiming her human rights had been violated as she had not been given a 'fair trial' following allegations of racism, and that she raised 'undue doubts' and unsupported 'alarmist allegations' in relation to OECD accounts.

The OECD admitted that its accounting system was 'archaic' but denied Andreasen's suspension only came as a result of the concerns she raised.

A comment in an article by Michelle Perry of Accountancy Age


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A Blog dedicated to the support of UKIP and the principles of its foundation exposing the corruption that is EUkip.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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Bob Feal-martinez said...

How amusing so GLW is so desperate in the search for 'dirt', he drags up yet another piece of ancient history, but I guess given he is party of that same era then it is appropriate.

Greg L-W. said...

Hi,

the BFM is correct - I have confirmed, and provided substantiation and provenance when asked.

Perhaps because a long term memory worries The BFM and he is only a late comer with personal ambitions - rather here for Britain's liberty in the long haul.

Well let us help The BFM - read EUkip's OFFICIAL report of its own Returning Officer - Marta Andreasen's standing for MEP aspirant in EUkip is invalid under EUkip's own rules - she is also invalid on several counts.

So not only can I provide the facts for historic dishonesty of Andreasen but also current dishonesty and duplicity.

The BFM on the other hand seems only to be able to smear and defame without evidence or fact.

Consider Dr. Eric Edmond who The Faragista Fan Club have most dishonestly abused. They have even invented lies to substantiate their endemic dishonesty.

If EUkip behaves this badly & dishonesty to GET power think how obscenely they would act IN power!

Backed by the likes of Searchlight, Croucher The BFM, Bannerman and other such low lifes.

Laws by EUkip are clearly invalid and to be invented without integrity or principle to suit the ambitions of the leader. Extortion, blackmail, lies and bullying become the order of the day.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

Bob Feal-martinez said...

Eric by his own hand has created his downfall. You cannot claim 'innocence' and then be party to the disclosure of information that appears on the web. No party in the land would put up with that.

As I have previously said, no one disputes his undoubted previous contributions to the party, but it seems since being selected at only number four on the MEP candidates list he has decided to 'hurt' the party. Perhaps he became too close to Knapman and co for his own good.

Greg L-W. said...

Hi,

Perhaps of defaming the elected candidate and elected member of the NEC The BFM might care to identify a single confidential fact that Dr. Edmond has published on the web.

Unlike The BFM with his endless lies, proven libels and vile behaviour Dr. Edmond seems to speak and publish a great deal of sense.

However The BFM has a long track record of dishonesty and cowardice - never willing to apologise for his lies when they are, as ever, exposed.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

Bob Feal-martinez said...

I have never doubted Eric's knowledge and contribution to the party, what I have questioned is his reasoning at such a crucial time to do calculated harm.

It has been said by others, although I have no evidence to support it, that his role was always to undermine the party and that his move to Ganley's party is for a similar reason, Ganley being feared by the Tories.

Greg L-W. said...

Hi,

We note -

Bob Feal-martinez said...
I have never doubted Eric's knowledge and contribution to the party,

I do not believe dr. Edmond ever had any intention to contribute to the party you support as I see no sign of dishonesty, corruption, lies, lack of integrity, bullying, racism etc. on his part that are an integral part of The Faragista Fan Club and the anti UKIP faction that is so pro maintaining the snouts of a few shamefully dishonourable low lifes.

what I have questioned is his reasoning at such a crucial time to do calculated harm.

Possibly because being an honest man he was acquitting his duty - part of which is to represent the UKIP members and try his best to protect the Party from the liars, cheats, bullies, racists and unelected placemen who have so clearly acted as usefull idiots and destroyed UKIP for their own gain.

It has been said by others, although I have no evidence to support it,

As with most that you say and publish - witting and deliberate libel and defamation.

that his role was always to undermine the party

As I say - as with much that you say a deliberate and unsubstantiated lie and a clear and unequivocal libel based upon every shred of evidence in the public domain and the word of men of standing who voted for him and have supported him.

I am convinced that you are telling lies based upon absolutely no evidence and published dishonestly, deliberately and in mallice.

and that his move to Ganley's party is for a similar reason,

Do you have ANY sound evidence for this or is it just another mallicious smear.

I do not believe that Dr. Edmond had any intention other than to actively and energeticly campaign and work for Britain to leave the EU.

Further I do not believe that Dr. Edmond has shown ANY signs of being so unprincipled as to one minute campaign for leaving the EU and then vaulte face to Declan Ganley's pro EU stance based upon an obtuse and fundamentally dishonest concept of change.

Dr. Edmond is NOT that stupid, nor do I believe there is any evidence that he is that dishonest!

Unlike some who have joined Declan Ganley and Libertas who have thrown out their claimed principles and substituted apology and excuses whilst Ganley is clearly campaigning on a narrow Irish Catholic basis founded largely on anti abortion and ego.

Ganley being feared by the Tories.

With due cause as his entire platform is founded upon lies as is that of the Tories - Both Parties are undeniably dishonest regarding the EU.


Perhaps rather than using the racist style of the BNP and running away from the issue in the cowardly manner you usually use seeking to obfuscate - you might for once act in a grown up way and either provide the provenance of your libellous dishonesty or apologise unreservedly if you can, as usual, provide no evidence.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

Bob Feal-martinez said...

The day you stop using vile lies, innuendo and third hand 'facts' as truth, will be the day I may just concede that you are not a low-life.

Greg L-W. said...

Hi,

PERHAPS The BFM who said:

Bob Feal-martinez said...
The day you stop using vile lies, innuendo and third hand 'facts' as truth, will be the day I may just concede that you are not a low-life.


One reason why dr. Edmond nor anyone else who posts here much cares what your opinion is as you can not substantiate a single one of your claims and are far too much of a coward to address FACT with accurate data to refute it.

I can find no posting by Dr. Edmond that warrants this - the latest of your childish and foolish comments.

Fortunately Dr. Edmond has buoilt a body of fact (not cut and paste) on the internet to more than make your comment look very foolish.

Learn some facts and then come back and apologise when you are unable to substantiate your childish tantrums.

Regards,
Greg L-W.