Saturday, 2 May 2009

Piers Merchant is not Junius

The accusation by Croucher that Piers is Junius is laughable. The only people who believe it are the Farage cabal who are eager to find someone to blame as the police have done more often recently than is good for them. They have ended up destroying their own reputation and no one now believes a word they say. UKIP should take notice.

Historians will tell you you have to ask the following questions of any source. Was he in a position to know and was he there at the time to know. The answer to both in Piers case is No! The claim that UKIP's email system was firing out copies to all and sundry proves only how incompetent UKIP management are, not that Piers is Junius. Croucher will have to go through Junius's blogs and item by item trace the information back to Arnot's emails and show the blog items occured shortly after the email was sent to sustain his case. One or two items will not suffice as there are many other possible sources for Junius's material.

I do not know who Junius is and I do not want to know. I think he does an excellent job in publishing information about UKIP that the members have a perfect right to know. The same goes for GLW although from time to time he does get a bit carried away by his own rhetoric.

Piers could not possibly know the vast majority of the information Junius and GLW publish. My personal view is that the source must be someone close to Nigel Farage. That passes the place and time test. Also the test of who is damaged and who is not by the leak indicates a source close to NF. Possibly a case of cherchez la femme?

Finally Ruth Shoebridge is organising a UK Renewal umbrella meeting for those from all parties interested in the anti EU cause. It is to be held at:

Chichester, Assembly Rooms, North Street, Chichester PO19 1LQ
Saturday 9th May at 2.30 pm,

There is a large car park to the north of North Street, which surrounds the Chichester Festival Theatre. (several acres of parking space)

Premier event of the season for all interested in UK action to get us out of the EU and get our country back!

The purpose of the meeting, is to meet people from every political party, who are concerned about Britain's relationship with the EU and the general topic will be:.

' What is the best way forward to get us out of the EU?'

Petrina Holdsworth and others will speak but most of the time will be given over to debate and Question & Answer.

All are welcome. Tea and biscuits will be available.

Ruth organises these things very well so do attend if you can.

32 comments:

Bob Feal-martinez said...

So if it's not true, we can expect Piers to sue.

I suppose you are not Somerset either.

Bob Feal-martinez said...

Petrina Holdsworth and others will speak but most of the time will be given over to debate and Question & Answer.

So a UKFP event then. Wonder what the topic will be, oh I know don't vote UKIP.

Eric when I you going to stop pretending are anything but supportive of UKIP. Have you resigned from UKIP yet and joined UKFP. Clearly that is where your loyalties lie.

Eric Edmond said...

Bob

I know you have been kicked off the Forum but I do hope you are not going to use my blog as a substitute.

I am not a member of UKFP. I am a member of UKIP. I will always put my country before party and to that end I will support any anti EU initiative.

Greg L-W. said...

Hi,

It is interesting to note that Bob FM has been proved to be an habitual liar, unwilling to apologise when publicly exposed for abuse, libel and lies at:
http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/complaints/60437-bobfm.html#post658659 and elsewhere.

Let us deal with fact item by item and correct the misleading and dishonest comment he has made on this Blog.

The BFM said:
So if it's not true, we can expect Piers to sue.I would doubt it - Piers is as fare as I know not stupid enough to care what the vile little squirt Mark Croucher has to say about anything as Croucher has been known as utterly untrustworthy and a liar for many years to those who have knowledge of EUkip.

Further it would be foolish of Mr. Merchant to sue someone who yet again has failed - this time by being foolish enough to borrow money to launch two pubs during a predictable collapse of the economy, and when even competent experienced publicans are finding their skills are inadequate for survival!

The BFM said:
I suppose you are not Somerset either.I appreciate The BFM is more than somewhat challenged but even many Spaniards know Somerset is a County!

What was the point of your foolish comment?

The BFM said:
Petrina Holdsworth and others will speak but most of the time will be given over to debate and Question & Answer.I guess you CAN read - what it says on the tin is likely to be what Ruth Shoebridge delivers.

A good initiative on Mrs. Shoebridge's part - cross party and opposed to EU membership.

The BFM said:
So a UKFP event then.

But I guess even though The BFM can read - comprehension is a bit challenging!

The BFM said:
Wonder what the topic will be, oh I know don't vote UKIP.I believe if you read Dr. Edmond's information it is clear without your attempt to deliberately damage EUkip's reputation, they can do that without your Mr. Angry impressions surrounded by veggie crates.

The BFM said:
Eric when I you going to stop pretending are anything but supportive of UKIP.

Could you get your carer to re-write this in English - few understand Manglish.

The BFM said:
Have you resigned from UKIP yet and joined UKFP.

I understand Dr. Edmond despite the abuse and dishonesty of EUkip is still trying to make it a worthwhile Political entity rather than the self seeking ferrets squabbling in a sack without competent or even honest or ethical leadership.

The BFM said:
Clearly that is where your loyalties lie.I believe your apology is yet again required for this comment or produce just one shred of evidence.

You have proved beyond doubt that your opinion is untrustworthy and you are an habitual liar.

Do please try to act with some integrity and not perpetuate the perception of the honest as a dishonest coward.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 - 62 65 62 - happy to substantiate EVERY statement and fact on
http://CaterpillarsAndButterflies.BlogSpot.com

Greg L-W. said...

Hi,

Good luck and well done to Ruth Shoebridge for organising a UK Renewal umbrella meeting for those from all parties interested in the anti EU cause.

It is to be held at:

Chichester, Assembly Rooms, North Street, Chichester PO19 1LQ
Saturday 9th May at 2.30 pm,

I hope all goes well and you can do whayt EUkip has so spectacularly failed to do with their witch hunts, bullying, drunken womanising and dressing up as chickens.

EUkips main achievement seems to have been to betray the EUroRealist Movement, fracture the party, trash the membership and act as recruiting sargeants for the revolting BNP.


Good luck to Ruth and those helping her to Patriotically leave The EU - dedicated individuals like Petrina Holdsworth, Dr. Edmond and many others.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

Junius said...

Eric, I can confirm that I am NOT Piers Merchant or even Roger Knapman as some are suggesting.

I will continue to expose corruption in UKIP until Farage and his sycophants are history.

Once they are gone we can reclaim UKIP for all honest members.

Greg L-W. said...

Hi,

It is public knowledge that the details of Junius are known to me and that I am in verbal and written communication with Junius.

I am prepared to attest that there is absolutely no reason to believe that EUkip has the vaguest clue as to the identity of Junius.

I am willing to attest, if Piers Merchant were foolish to waste his time in litigation on the matter, that Piers Merchant IS NOT a part of Junius.

I can also attest that Piers Merchant has NEVER communicated with Junius and as with everyone else it seems he has no idea who Junius is or howmany people are involved.

Mark Croucher and his followers Bob FM and the idiot Douglas Denny are completely wrong and are potentially liable to prosecution by Piers Merchant, were he so foolish - I believe any Court would treat the matter as nuisance by fools and would advise Piers Merchant to 'Consider The Source'.

Dishonest little men of bile, vitriol and hatred. Proven repeatedly to be dishonest, untrustworthy and self interested even amongst their colleagues.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 - 62 65 62

Bob Feal-martinez said...

So that's alright then we can believe a man who for months and months denied he had criminal convictions.

Eric do not fear, I have no intention of posting endlessly on here. I will monitor what GLW/Junius posts and respond accordingly.

I can tell you that there are some seriously 'pee'd' off SW UKIP who feel very betrayed by Piers and they have a right to be. I understand there is more to come on that front.

He won't sue by the way because using police parlance, 'he is bang to rights'.

Greg L-W. said...

Hi,

It is at times hardly surprising that the Police are called 'Pigs' by some - I note Bob FM is back with more Porkies! One only needs a few rotten apples to contaminate a whole barrel.

The BFM said
So that's alright then we can believe a man who for months and months denied he had criminal convictions.Perhaps the many months can be identified? No I thought not.

Presumably this would be the grievous crime of accidentally shipping a girlfriend's pistol & 50 rounds of ammo. back into Britain after 10 years abroad, with our household effects a long spent offence for which I was merely fined and took the 'rap' as the owner of the firearm was an American citizen.

As a long since Police Officer one would have thought this low life Bob FM would have understood the concept of 'Spent Crime'.

The fact that it is probable that details of this technical offence and other details (NON Criminal, from aiding the Police) were criminally obtained via EUkip or its agents abusing the sloppy security of the UK and unlawfully obtaining an 'Enhanced CRB' or access to the PNC without authority would matter little to the ethics of the likes of Bob FM or EUkip.

The BFM said
I can tell you that there are some seriously 'pee'd' off SW UKIP who feel very betrayed by Piers and they have a right to be.

I doubt this is a surprise to anyone based upon the lies and dishonesty of Mark Croucher, Bob FM, Douglas Denny and the vile group that now seem to have hijacked EUkip for their personal gain - as they bandy round distorted half truths in a feeding frenzy to try to get near the troughs on the EU's Gravy Train.

The BFM said
I understand there is more to come on that front.Based on past record of these individuals lies and distortions.

Not one shred of plausible evidence has been shown to substantiate what seems to be a pack of lies and suppositions.

The BFM said
He won't sue by the way because using police parlance, 'he is bang to rights'.No that is only the very ignorant Police the more competent ones use the criminal parlance of 'Banged to rights'.

Sadly there has been absolutely no evidence of ANY criminal action to back up all the lies being promulgated in desparation by EUkip's army of vile myth spreeders.

Bob FM would seem to have failed to note he was chucked off of what was UKIPForum not only for telling lies and abusing people but when it was proven he was a liar and could not back his lies with evidence and was not man enough to apologise when 'Banged to rights' he was banned for 6 months.

Only a coward would keep behaving thus in the hope/belief that no one can be bothered or afford to sue them.

They do say scum rises and sadly EUkip is there to prove the point - so sad when so many of us did so much to build the party, sad to see it being destroyed - choked by the scum.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

Bob Feal-martinez said...

I am sure that anyone who visits Eric's blog will be thrilled to learn that Eric allows GLW to defend him.

I also note that GLW actually confirms what I posted on BDF that the press are not interested in his rants anymore, although of course he tries to spin it so as to indicate that it's because the press believe that UKIP is so corrupt and it is so widespread that it's not news worthy.

Dream on Greg, it's because they have been threatened so often with legal action and had to apologise because of your 'facts' that they see you for what you are a sad, and pathetic old man, seeking an importance that has always eluded you.

I understand from my contacts down your way that people cross the road rather than engage with you.

Eric Edmond said...

Bob,

I believe in freedom of speech. That is why I allow you to post comments on my blog. It does not mean I agree with what you say. The principles I apply for you apply equally to Greg and Junius and the same caveats apply.

I also believe in a broad church to allow Euro realists of all persuasions to express their views at Ruth's meeting at Chichester next Saturday. I do not believe in proscribing political parties, a characteristic of fascist parties since the 1920s.

My views have not changed since I was elected onto the SW MEP list and you can find my views on my website: www.ericedmond.com

I stand for British values of justice and fairplay by the rules in all things. Thus I can obviously never be one of Farage's fascisti.

Piers Merchant did an immense amount to secure the great national and SW result for UKIP in 2004. Piers skills may be better appreciated in the South WestLet after the 2009 results on 7th June

Eric

Greg L-W. said...

Hi,

little as I believe other people's comment sections an appropriate place to openly attack individuals far be it from me to instigate such an attack - I shall leave that to the dishonest and the cowards.

Let us not forget that part of the aim of the original blog was to promote the genuine efforts of Ruth Shoebridge to address gaining the liberty of Britain from the odious and undemocratic EU - And the very best of luck to her and those who are supporting and aiding her.

The other purpose of the blog was to expose the idiocy of EUkip in their involvement with the likes of Mark Croucher and their blatant and flagrant breeches of the Data Protection Act.

Using his usual aggresive and dishonest techniques TheBFM sets out to drag discusion into what would seem to be the gutter in which he lives.

Consider his last attempt to distract from the aim of the original blog where The BFM said:
I am sure that anyone who visits Eric's blog will be thrilled to learn that Eric allows GLW to defend him.There is no need for me to defend him he is quite man enough and intelligently capable of defending himself. I merely comment to exp[ose the lies, distortion and dishonesty of the aggresive and unpleasant BFM.

I believe there is no place in British politics for corruption and if it requires his lies and dishonesty to regain our liberty then perhaps we would be better off without such vile concepts.

By all means debate the views and opinions of one's opponents but to sink to the levels of dishonesty of TheBFM and some others in pursuit of getting their snouts in the EU troughs with EUkip is a measure of the abject failure of EUkip.

The BFM said:
I also note that GLW actually confirms what I posted on BDF
From which he was thrown off for abusive behaviour, debasing threads to try to have them locked and a series of lies over a prolonged period for which he refused to apologise when unable to provide facts to back his libels and lies.

The BFM said:
that the press are not interested in his rants anymore, although of course he tries to spin it so as to indicate that it's because the press believe that UKIP is so corrupt and it is so widespread that it's not news worthy.Rather than gratuitous lies and dishonesty perhaps The BFM will be man enough to provide evidence of this statement with provenance or apologise.

The reason the mainstream media publish so little of gravitas or consequence about EUkip is that they are politically insignificant and without gravitas or consequence.

Chicken acts mainly feature as a NIB.

The BFM said:
Dream on Greg, it's because they have been threatened so often with legal action and had to apologise because of your 'facts'

Further lies from theBFM since he can not for one second substantiate his allegation.

Be a man Bob - provide provenance that a single newspaper has EVER been lied to by me, identify a single instance where a newspaper has EVER faced legal action based on a single word I have said.

Put up the evidence and your provenance of your lie or apologise.

The BFM said:
that they see you for what you are a sad, and pathetic old man, seeking an importance that has always eluded you.I am indeed sad that due to operative damage I am less able to travel and take other actions in defence of my country - however never, unlike The BFM, have I sought or desired public office and importance.

The BFM said:
I understand from my contacts down your way that people cross the road rather than engage with you.I am quite sure there are - I have always had a reputation for not suffering fools gladly and I can name several Councillors, Police Officers and other self seekers who it is publicly known I hold in utter contempt.

I would hope that all who consider the style, morality, ethics, values and behaviour of such as TheBFM would make a point of crossing the road - in fact if The BFM could identify them perhaps he would be so good as to suggest they don't come to Chepstow, we have enough drunks, yobs and low lifes already thanks. We have no need of people like the dishonest and aggresive BFM.

As for the primary contention of Ertic's Blog, though I have lampooned Piers Merchant over many years that he is Junius I know to be untrue.

That he was receiving mail from EUkip that was in breech of The DPA is no surprise EUkip is utterly incompetent and unfit to receive a single vote.

That EUkip has been mailing its entire 'e'Mail membership list unencrypted in flagrant disregard of the official warning they have received and that Croucher is such a fool he provides the evidence for EUkip's prosecution on a public blog speaks volumes of the callibre of those in EUkip's leadership and staff.

The sooner EUkip is closed down and such prosecutions as are approppriate are conducted the sooner the party can be handed back to its grass roots honest members to rebuild UKIP in a form fit for a vote.

We all look forward to The BFM's apology and all but The BFM wish Ruth Shoebridge well with her patriotic efforts.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
ANYONE wishing to confirm facts is welcom to contact me.

Junius said...

Eric

Best of luck with the meeting in Chichester.

If you want me to come along and give a speech let me know!

Junius

Eric Edmond said...

Junius you will have to ask Ruth. You can contact her via Geoffrey Colllier. I you do speak I would suggest you come dressed as the Stig on Clarkson's petrol head show with a voice box to make you sound like Darth Vader or even just come as Darth Vader.

Greg L-W. said...

Hi,

do let me know - I'd love to break the news Darth Varder to speak against Britain's membership of The EU.

Battle Star standing off for the party afterwards?

Berlesconni will provide an army of bimbet airheads - theres no more need for Italian Politicians!

Regards,
Greg L-W.

Eric Edmond said...

Greg,

Why don't you or the Major hire yourself a Darth Vader costume and make the news. One of you could record the event on video or mobile phone for release on YouTube - just don't try and smile.

Best tell Ruth in advance

Eric

Greg L-W. said...

Hi,

it would probably have turned out more like Don Quixote!

Sadly since my op I'm a bit like fine wine - I don't travel too well!

But it would have been fun!

Perhaps The BFM could go as he is and pass himself off as Fred Flintstone!

Regards,
Greg L-W.

Eric Edmond said...

with Denny as his side kick Barney Rubble

Greg L-W. said...

Hi,

if The BFM is Fred
&
Dippy denny is Barney Rubble does that make little Joshua Onion Arnold?

Clearly you are retired Eric and watch too much daytime TV - I had to look it up on Wiki. - Disaster Lee is now watching YouTube re-runs!!! She has never seen it except in comics!

Regards,
Greg L-W.

Bob Feal-martinez said...

Good grief, ample proof that the 'cabal' that is GLW live in a fantasy world.

The sad thing is GLW believes his own propaganda a very dangerous trait which could be a serious psychological problem called,
narcissism. It is a set of character traits concerned with self-admiration, self-centredness and self-regard.

Only his version of reality is the truth, in his own mind of course and those who become 'indoctrinated. Sound familiar.

Eric Edmond said...

Bob,

Get a sense of humour, get a life and get off my blog.

Bob Feal-martinez said...

Temper, temper. Why not do as your fellow anti UKIPer's do and disallow comment.

Eric if you make a pact with the Devil, do not be surprised when you get burnt. Your credibility is now shot to pieces, which is a great shame as you did so much for the party, I am told.

You chose to put your shirt on the wrong horses and they have let you and UKIP down badly. Rather than get angry at me, perhaps you ought to turn your attention to those who you chose to align with, and trust, it is Piers and co who have been the dishonest ones.

I note we have not had a hint of denial from Piers, not even from the 'cabal', aside from junius saying they are not him.

Greg L-W. said...

Hi,

I wonder if The BFM realises that being gratuitously offensive, consistently abusive, regularly wrong, inevitably inaccurate and willing to make unsubstantiated and speculative accusations is hugely damaging to EUkip and the false gods he adulates.

The BFM brings the status of PPC into disrepute by his behaviour and his willingness to lie without foundation about people unwilling to apologise when proven wrong is all to redollent of the manner of EUkip.

It is sad to see UKIP which so many of us did so much to support and build over so many years dragged in the gutter by such behaviour.

Never ONCE have I seen a constructive original comment from this self serving wrecker as he aids The EU by providing usefull idiots.

For many years there have been those who chose to call The Faragista Fan Club theCabal - The BFM is too stupid to understand what is going on around him in his greed for preferment!

Regards,
Greg L-W.

Bob Feal-martinez said...

GLW talks of integrity something that he lacks in truck loads. There is a call on BDF for GLW to apologise for the lies he has told about Mr Padmore on his own blog. But Mr integrity do so. Of course not.

I do not need a lecture from a self confessed convicted criminal.

Greg L-W. said...

Bob Feal-martinez said...
GLW talks of integrity something that he lacks in truck loads.

Unfortunately the dishonest BFM has no substantive evidence to back his libel. Yet again and again misleads and lies.

Let us remind the foolish old man - my identity and details are plain for all to see and it is not I who seeks through duplicity, dishonesty, bullying, toadying and cowardice to gain votes for my own preferment dishonestly but he.

There is a call on BDF for GLW to apologise for the lies he has told about Mr Padmore on his own blog.

Yes and dealt with in great deal proving beyond any shadow of doubt the dishonesty of Anthony Butcher and Brendan Padmore and the irrefutable fact that as a result of the lies and dishonesty, corruption and abuse of Paul Nuttall unelected chairman of EUkip The Forum in question acts duplicitously and dishonestly on orders from EUkip.

Is it any wonder that a Forum acting for a dishonest organisation and corrupt individuals, including TheBFM, is all too willing to mislead and lie about a whistle blower exposing the corruption in EUkip.

But Mr integrity do so. Of course not.You will of course note, as The BFM is well aware having been banned from the forum in question for dishonesty, lies, cowardice and libel - I am precluded from response on the forum to ensure I can be defamed by cowards with impunity.

You will of course find extensive details showing TheBFM to clearly be completely dishonest on this issue and much else at:
http://CaterpillarsAndButterflies.Blogspot.com

I do not need a lecture from a self confessed convicted criminal.Most clearly you do on several counts but firstly as an ex copper however stupid or bent you should be aware that a technical offence of 30 years ago is hardly relevant! (for the record it is known as 'SPENT')

Nor would anyone of any integrity quote it but it seems you or an associate has unlawfully/criminally accessed either my enhanced CRB or The Police National Computer!

So very EUkip and just like TheBFM to be involved!

For the record it was NOT an offence of consequence and had NOTHING to do with honesty. As TheBFM knows, since I have always made known the details as a joke, showing the stupidity of the police!

Yes I am happy to be asasociated with acting honourably even though it led to a fine.

I am gratefull to Bob Feel-Martinis for the opportunity of showing once again what a duplicitous, dishonest and unpleasant little man he is.

Be minded that it is The BFM in his arrogance seeks to represent others and is a PPC constantly dragging politics into the gutter in which he seemingly resides.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

May I take this opportunity of reminding readers of the Cross Party meeting to address ways of getting out of The odious EU at which we are given to understand Petrina Holdsworth of UKFirstParty will be speaking and answering questions with other genuine EUroSceptics.

More details can be found at:
http://UKFirstParty.Blogspot.com

Thanks,
Regards,
Greg L-W.

Bob Feal-martinez said...

Yes and dealt with in great deal proving beyond any shadow of doubt the dishonesty of Anthony Butcher and Brendan Padmore and the irrefutable fact that as a result of the lies and dishonesty, corruption and abuse of Paul Nuttall unelected chairman of EUkip The Forum in question acts duplicitously and dishonestly on orders from EUkip.

I think this one comment effectively sums are the stupidity of GLW. Anthony Butcher is a paid up member of Libertas, it is hardly in that parties interests for Anthony to allow his site to be used to support and promote UKIP. Even a first year politics student would see what a nonsense GLW's staement is.

Greg L-W. said...

Hi,

One is forced to wonder when The BFM will have the perspicacity to complete that first year!

May I suggest as part of his studies that he considers the date of the lies by Nuttall published on Butcher's Forum and then works out when Butcher joined Libertas and maybe even why he jumped ship from EUkip.

If you need help understanding things why not ask? Clearly your beligerance, lack of manners and the damage you do EUkip can hardly be part of the plan for a PPC with any intelligence whatsoever - are you salaried by the BNP to damage EUkip? It is now obvious EUkip are a busted flush and only a challenge to the BNP.

EUkip has done so much to aid the EU with its help increasing subsidiarity and working in committees to stengthen the control The EU has over vassal states and by childish pranks and light weight sound bites EUkip aid the EU in their pretence of democracy.

It is astonishing just how infiltrated EUkip is with people like TheBFN and Searchlight extremists and liars!

Consider the utterly discreditted political prostitute Andreassen and why do you think their Party Political Broadcast was so garbled, with not a statement sourced - just a one man band with the same old same old same old and the lisping whinning and unconvincing woman from Spain who cheated to get selected, with Farage who cheated to become leader - so VERY EU!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
Regards,
Greg L-W.

Bob Feal-martinez said...

Oh dear, you must work for the BNP jibe, scraping the barrel there somewhat aren't we.

There are those who claim to have proof of you close links GLW, are they true. Wasn't there a number of meetings organised by the BNP that you misled UKIP people into attending. But I guess that is a lie as well.

And Eric before you have another go, I will stop posting on your blog when GLW stops including me in the posts you allow him to make.

Due to his cowardliness I cannot respond on his or junius's blogs. Strange that isn't it. They can give it out but can't take it, very brave people.

Greg L-W. said...

Hi,

yet again The BFN is aggresively and belligerently seeking to defame and distort - why am I not surprised.

Bob Feal-martinez said...
Oh dear, you must work for the BNP jibe, scraping the barrel there somewhat aren't we.Anyone logical must question for whom you work as clearly you do a great deal of harm to EUkip and bring the status of every one of their branch chairmen and PPCs into disrepute as you are serially thrown off of Blogs and Forums for dishonesty.

Many of us appreciate just how much EUkip has done to power the rise of the odious BNP and TheBFM's behaviour is the perfect recruiting sargeant for them.

Raise the profile of the EU and then with ill manners, aggresion and dishonesty drive the convert into the arms of the BNP.

Could it really be just stupidity and poor control of anger?

Bob Feal-martinez said...
There are those who claim to have proof of you close links GLW, are they true.

There are those who claim to have proof that Bob FM has sex with goats beside railway lines on his allotment I guess - I have no more reason to believe them than (well little more) than Bob has to believe the dishonesties about me which he so gleefully embellishes and reitterates at every chance - despite absolutely no evidence, no facts and merely his own unpleasant personality and that of his associates to repeat the lies.

Bob Feal-martinez said...
Wasn't there a number of meetings organised by the BNP that you misled UKIP people into attending. As you well know and thus you choose your words duplicitously, you are deliberately promoting lies and embellishments.

The BFM will recall he was thrown off of Anthony Butcher's Forum for lies and dishonesty and failure to substantiate grave accusations.

Bob Feal-martinez said...
But I guess that is a lie as well.Then I guess an honourable man would have established the truth BEFORE publishing a pack of lies.

However I overlook The BFM's habitual dishonesty.

Bob Feal-martinez said...
And Eric before you have another go, I will stop posting on your blog when GLW stops including me in the posts you allow him to make.

May I submit it is ill mannered to dictate your terms when granted permision to publish on someone elses blog. On the subject of manners it is normally accepted in this Country that if you wish to publish lies without substantiation you are man enough to do it on your own territory or blog - not abuse the hospitality of someone elses.

The alternative for a coward like you is to set up a blog like The Common Man in shamefull anonimity sheltering your lies behind an off shore host.

If it would make you feel important and alleviate some of your misplaced anger perhaps you could contact Mark Croucher and he will show you how to be duplicitous, dishonest and corrupt sheltering behind false identities and using hidden links on computers to implicate uninvolved patriots in your dishonesty.

Mark Croucher is an expert at that sort of dishonesty.

Bob Feal-martinez said...
Due to his cowardliness

One presumes you mean cowardice?

Bob Feal-martinez said...
I cannot respond on his or junius's blogs.

I can not speak for Junius but the reason I do not permit comments on my CaterpillarsAndButterflies blog is simple - frankly I do not want spam or trolls and I have absolutely no interest in your opinions or views as clearly we have nothing in common and I have absolutely nothing which I could wish to learn from you.

That blog is designed to publish substantive facts and my views NOT YOUR LIES OR YOUR OPINIONS which to me are mostly beneath contempt and more often than not it seems dishonest and ill informed.

I hope this explains why I do not accepyt comments. There is no element of cowardice I assure you.

You may recall your own display of dishonest cowardice, when I offered to meet with you and show you the evidence of Tom Wise's guilt as held by me - you prefered to go on telling lies.

Believing you were too much of a coward to meet with me Paul Wesson, a qualified barrister, offered to collect you from the pub your wife runs and bring you to Chepstow to give you the courage to meet with me.

Swindon being within about the range I am able to travel - here is a challenge for you - I am willing, to dispell your myths of cowardice and accusations and lies, I will travel to Swindon and at an open public meeting, organised by you during May I am perfectly happy to take a platform to address any questions that any of the audience wish to put.

I regret I can't make the 14th. as I am in hospital for more checks - nor the 18th. as it is Lee's birthday but since you are a publican I am sure you have contacts competent to organise such a meeting at reasonable times, with adequate notice.

I would expect you to fund my travel and possible overnight stay.

I will help with publicity for your meeting by posting the details on other blogs.

I hope this aids you.

Now as cowards go Bob Feel Martinis put up or shut up.
Bob Feal-martinez said...

Strange that isn't it.

Strange is not a word I would tend to use when confused but OK do explain what you find so strange in the facts rather than your fantasies about those facts.

Bob Feal-martinez said...
They can give it out but can't take it, very brave people.Well let us see of whom you speak and we will know when we see the details you propose for the public meeting.

Since he is known to both of us may I suggest Paul Wesson be approached to chair the meeting. Clearly if you are not too much of a coward you would wish to be in the audience so that you could ask questions one would presume.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

Junius said...

BFM said:

"Due to his cowardliness I cannot respond on his or junius's blogs. Strange that isn't it. They can give it out but can't take it, very brave people."

Not true. You were only banned from the Junius blog for a month. That ban ended weeks ago!

More lies from BFM.

Bob Feal-martinez said...

As you never notified me of any ban, I was hardly expected to know. Not to worry, there is nothing but irrelevant rubbish on your site anyway.

I couldn't possibly lie about something I knew nothing about.

Greg L-W. said...

Hi,

Bob Feal-martinez said...
I couldn't possibly lie about something I knew nothing about.It has never stopped you in the past. hence you have been banned for your dishonesty and lies on Junius Blog a few times and on Anthony Butcher's Forum several times - most recently for 6 months.

Your dishonesty id well known.

Your stupidity is proven.

Your corruption is irrefutable.

You are a coward and have proved to be beneath contempt.

Bob Feel Martinis you are a liar and a cheat and evidence of this has been provided over and over again, which you have NEVER been able to refute or defend.

Cheerio - do stop wasting peoples time, you silly loittle man.
Greg L-W.