Tuesday 10 October 2017

May the appeaser must resign.


May is a politically  incompetent woman who does not believe the country would be better off outside the EU. Her latest car crash interview with Ian Dale on LBC must be her last:as PM

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We are now in a 1940 situation with appeaser May (Chamberlain in 1940) facing and losing to the fascist dictatorship of the EU led by Herr Juncker. In 1940 the political elite wanted to replace Chamberlain with another appeaser, Lord Halifax. Thank goodness the MPs took a chance on the then much sneered at Churchill. It was him or surrender to Hitler. Its exactly the same choice we face today. May will be replaced by either the appeasers/remainers Hammond or Rudd who will kow tow to Juncker and the great god, the economy or if the Tory party has  the good of the country at heart any of those who led the Leave campaign.

When I campaigned in the streets of Yeovil & Crewkerne for Vote Leave last year I said to every one I gave a leaflet to, "Vote Leave or your children will die German slaves". For saying this I was abused and sworn at by the Lib Dems but not Labour or Tory voters. i still stand by what I sad then and the subsequent speeches of Juncker, Verhoffstadt etc have proven how right I was.

Our Brexit victory is being salami sliced away in the usual EU delaying manner. Why do we need a transition period at all? Business will always ask for more time just as my students always wanted more time to prepare for exams. Then they will ask for yet more time and more and more. May says it will be time limited but won't say what the limit is so its unlimited. Then there will be a General Election which will probably bring Prime Minister Corbyn to power . That may not be such a bad thing if it rids us of Hammond and his cronies. At least we know PM Corbyn will not like the big business loving EU if he sticks to his principles but power and money can change even the best Marxist's views.

Our Brexit will however be lost.

20 comments:

L fairfax said...

"Our Brexit will however be lost."
That is why UKIP should never have supported a referendum but tried to obtain power via the house of commons.

Eric Edmond said...

I certainly agree UKIP should have gone for bums on Green leather but it became a vanity project for Farage but that could not have happened without the tacit support of a Farage worshiping NEC. What part did Farage ply in the official Vote Leave campaign? None it was won by Bojo, Gisela Stuart, Kate Hoey and Dan Hannan. Farage has achieved his lifetimes ambition, a chat show host on LBC.

Stephen Harness said...

To be fair UKIP were finished the day Cameron offered a referendum. If Cameron had not done this, UKIP would have made a significant breakthrough at the 2015 GE. In their wildest dreams UKIP, and I include my humble part in this, never believed a referendum would be granted, let alone won. UKIP also failed to consider any future post referendum and they are now adrift without a paddle.
May is weak by her own decisions. Boris should have been sacked within minutes of his "remove bodies on Libya beach to build a resort" jibe but she is afraid of her own shadow and cannot fight another election having failed to fight the last GE.
Who could do the job. The most impressive performer for me is Fallon but he is a remainer. There lies the problem that has split political parties for 40 years or more.

Niall Warry said...

A recent TV programme advanced the case that Chamberlain was not an appeaser but brought us valuable time to rearm.

Eric Edmond said...

May is just wasting timr.

Bojo is our best chance of getting out of the EU. Fallon is just another Hammond

L fairfax said...

Leave didn't win the referendum, remain lost it. Heseltine said the day before we voted that we will join the Euro in my lifetime (so next 15 years tops) - an attitude like that is asking to lose.

Eric Edmond said...

Its a universal truth Mr Fairfax that in a zero sum game for every winner there is a loser.

L fairfax said...

True, but some people win because they are brilliant others because the alternative was even more useless than them - leave only won because remain managed to be even more useless than them.

Henry IX said...

By the real reason Remain were so useless is because there is nothing worthy to say about the EU - if your product 's crap, it's difficult to make much of a case!

L fairfax said...

I think Remain just so love the EU so much they do not understand how others don't share their love. If they had seen its flaws then they could have tried to negate some of them and could have won.

Stephen Harness said...

Sorry I disagree on BoJo. He was never a committed Brexiter until he became convinced his ego could profit from actually embracing Brexit. It is possible to be a well educated fool, and BoJo is just that.
A true Brexiter leader would be Jacob but he is untested.
Very difficult to say anything good about Chamberlain. Churchill had championed about the perils of Nazism for a decade and was ignored. At a time when many politicians were looking to surrender, Churchill was handed the mess to sort out after being shunned by Baldwin and Chamberlain from office. Chamerlain would be loved by the BBC today.

Niall Warry said...

SH - the question is were we ready to challenge Hitler any earlier than when we did?

Blind stoat said...

^ I'm not really sure what any of this has to do with Brexit, but in answer to your question, there is a strong argument for suggesting that France and Britain together could and should have acted in 1938 rather than waiting for the Germans to make their move in May 1940.

In 1938, France (even without British support) had a clear numerical superiority in both troops and tanks on the Western Front. Had France and Britain been willing to invade Germany in 1938, the German army would have been hard-pushed to stop them.

Stephen Harness said...

The sticking point now appears to money. Obviously the UK has to meet its obligations up to 2020. Beyond that I can understand we have to continue to pay our share of the pension liability however painful that thought is. But it should be possible to calculate a figure in a couple of hours and present this to Brussels. No ifs, no buts.

Eric Edmond said...

Nothing obvious about it Mr H. By the rules we pay up to end March 2019 when we leave the EU. That is the legal position anything further is a goodwill gesture that Juncker does not appreciate we make at our discretion but only if he dries out

Niall Warry said...

Eric, trading with any country incurs costs and with 27 others one needs to factor up the costs accordingly. Second we will still benefit from many other joint ventures with our EU neigbbours on things like Galileo, aviation flight path control and Erasmas to name but three.

Unless you support us becoming a pariah state we must not only pay our share of the divorce but others on going costs into the future.

Why are you blind to this reality?

Blind stoat said...

Niall, I am happy to accept that collaboration with the eu over the past 40+ years has produced some sensible initiatives, which have yielded significant benefits to this country but the so-called Erasmus Programme is most certainly not one of them. Erasmus involves the distribution of large sums of money (i.e. UK taxpayers' cash) to fund what is little more than a crude propaganda campaign, whose ultimate aim is to instil in undergraduates and academics an unquestioning acceptance of 'ever closer union' and all that it entails.

The UK is perfectly capable of directing its own taxpayers' funds in support of academic and scientific research - where that support is justified. If we wish to engage in collaborative projects with other eu universities and institutions, that's absolutely fine by me, but we should withdraw from the Erasmus programme ASAP.

Niall Warry said...

Blind stoat, the general idea of the scheme is worth having and if we were not part of Erasmus we would need to fund an equivalent at probably extra costs to ourselves. I'm ready to criticise anything EU but on balance I still believe it is worth being part of.

Eric Edmond said...

I was involved in and taught on the Erasmus scheme 30 odd years ago. For our UK students it was a gigantic waste of money which should have gone to our research councils and post grad funding. So Yes Mr Stoat is correct and Major Warry is living in La La land.

Niall Warry said...

Eric, The questions is do we or do we not want to be part of a reciprocal 'student exchange' system with our EU neighbours which I beleive IS well recieved by the students?

If the answer is YES then it would need to be funded so as a resulk on balance staying in Erasmus has its up side.

If I'm living in La La land, which is not my style, then you have your 'everything EU bad' blinkers on which only allows you a very restrictive view of the EU/Brexit issue.